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11/3 6:48a
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more "change" that will further destroy our country: quote: Just one year ago, would you have believed that an unelected government official, not even a Cabinet member confirmed by the Senate but simply one of the many "czars" appointed by the President, could arbitrarily cut the pay of executives in private businesses by 50 percent or 90 percent?
are you next? quote: Did you think that another "czar" would be talking about restricting talk radio? That there would be plans afloat to subsidize newspapers-- that is, to create a situation where some newspapers` survival would depend on the government liking what they publish?
How do you feel about obama`s state run propaganda campaign?
The people he surrounds himself with "Damn" America, have bombed America, continue to praise enemy dictators like Mao, see public schools as places to promote everything from fake science ("climate change") to se.xual practices.
They attack edmunds.com for telling the truth about the "cash for clunkers" debacle.
They attack Fox News and thus freedom of speech as they leave a vailed threat that the rest of the media should not pick up and, or perform any investigative journalism on any of the important stories Fox News broke.
Like their stories of these very radical left wing "czars".
Like their stories of the Whitehouse` remaining close ties to ACORN.
Like their stories of mass corruption at ACORN.
Like their stories of mass corruption and general thugery at SEIU.
Like their stories of SEIU union boss Andy Stern having visited the Whitehouse hundreds of times.
Like their stories exposing the coming health care swindle.
Like their stories exposing the internet "czar"s plans to snuff out disent on the internet.
I for one am glad that Obama and company are taking the fight to Fox News as it demonstrats to average people who otherwise don`t follow politics just how dangerous and wrong for America this radical left wing administration is.
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11/3 7:52a
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..."They attack Fox News and thus freedom of speech as they leave a vailed threat that the rest of the media should not pick up and, or perform any investigative journalism on any of the important stories Fox News broke. ...
...I for one am glad that Obama and company are taking the fight to Fox News as it demonstrats to average people who otherwise don`t follow politics just how dangerous and wrong for America this radical left wing administration is."...
You may or may not find this interesting and educational as it shows that the "censorship" you accuse this administration of, and so hate and despise, for what it is... nothing new to the White House and not limited to any party, it`s actually nothing more then just uneducated rhetoric and hypocrisy from the right.
http://www.politico.com/news/storie.....28739.html
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11/3 8:25a
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No hollow accusations here. It`s all fact.
No "hate" for this administration either.
I agree that most every administration has tried to control information flow to the press and how the press covers that information. the big problem we are witnessing now is that the leftist in the media are failing miserably in their journalistic duty to stand up to such executive branch assaults, for the most part leaving Fox hang.
And then we have Obama`s blindly following cheerleaders spouting uneducated rhetoric and hypocrisy as a defense (to wit your and other leftists treatment of the previous administration).
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11/3 8:36a
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Didn`t say anything about "hate for this administration" read it again. You should actually read the whole article, not that I expected you would, you might raise your comprehension of the subject at hand. Here`s a piece you must have missed.
..."But in this case, you have to separate the spin from the reality. The Republicans dithered on meeting and including Democratic-leaning groups and made it a big part of their agenda to attack the “liberal” media. Giving everyone a seat at the table doesn’t mean giving everyone a seat to sit there and attack the White House. And if anyone should and can appreciate that point, it is those very Republicans on television now complaining about it."...
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11/3 9:15a
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your childishly vieled insults aren`t helping you win your losing argument. I`m fully aware of the subject matter.
interesting section that you choose to quote, in that it includes the word "dithered", so clearly defined by Obama`s reluctance to make a call on Troop levels-deployement in the Afgan theater.
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11/3 9:36a
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quote:
the big problem we are witnessing now is that the leftist in the media are failing miserably in their journalistic duty to stand up to such executive branch assaults, for the most part leaving Fox hang.
A you see this is what happens when you get all of you r information from Faux News and the Rush Show....
When as a point of fact it was widely reported that the major networks stood up for FOX when the white house tried to keep them from the press pool:
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On Thursday, in a move that even Fox News’s competitors rejected, the Obama White House tried to freeze Fox News out of an interview with White House pay czar Kenneth Feinberg.
The White House said Feinberg would give interviews to members of the White House TV pool – with the exception of Fox News. The other members of the cost-sharing pool – CNN, ABC, NBC, and CBS -- objected.
“The Washington bureau chiefs of the five TV news networks consulted and decided that none of them would interview Feinberg unless Fox was included – and the administration relented, making Feinberg available to all five pool members and Bloomberg TV,”
I know Fringe-cons hate to acknoledge this as it fly in direct contrast to their false idea of liberal media conspiracy but it happened.
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11/3 11:26a
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quote: A you see this is what happens when you get all of you r information from Faux News and the Rush Show
yours seems to be a continuation of uneducated rhetoric and hypocrisy from another member of the far left but in the interest of furthering the discussion I`ll offer up a retort.
A. I survey quite a few diversified media sources
B. As such I`m well aware of a couple press pool members stepping up in support of the press pool rules which require inclusion of Fox News, once the Obama administration had raised their war on Fox to a level that the others could no longer risk being on the wrong side of.
Where were they, for example, on the Van Jones story?
Where are they on the fact that this administration is and has been continuing the "covert" surveillance, and many other acts of ongoing wanton hypocrisy that many on the left were so up in arms about?
ps. do you have any other points to try and make or are you simply posting to see yourself call people names, likely lifted from the Huffington press, in direct contrast to your self proclaimed fair and open mind?
pss. as one who has experienced quite a few election seasons, I posses more then enough gravitas to recognize when the leftist in the media are reading from the same sheet of music.
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11/3 1:15p
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The Huffington Post has been about one web page short of becoming TMZ.com since the election so no I don`t get much from them...I do however read the papers and watch the news and listen to the radio but since everything short of Rush and Faux is considered the liberal media I am sure you will lump all of it in along with the HUFFPO....of course that makes it easy to argue a fringe-con point of view when all facts even those that make your point agaisnt Obama can be dismissed as not being relevant although the fact I posted speaks directly to your accusation...
Now you bring up another example and you want me to do what? Find all of the articles about Van Jones in the media so that you can dismiss those as well?
No thanks...I can see you are playing with the fringe-con rule book and I rather not play after I have proved you wrong once...
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11/3 4:53p
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..."your childishly vieled insults..."...
Nothing childish or veiled in what I said, nor was it an insult. If you took it as such then that`s on you.
..."...aren`t helping you win your losing argument. I`m fully aware of the subject matter."...
Not losing anything other then your attention. You post as if the White Houses exception with a media organization is something of a new revelation. I post up something that reveals this to be the misinformation that it actually is and you contend that you understand the subject matter. I say you don`t. Each political party has a long standing battles with any entity who would dare to disagree with them.
Also to call me far left shows just how little you actually pay attention to these threads or it exemplifies just how far to the right you are.
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11/3 6:44p
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Very intresting banter but very much off the intended target!
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